The Energy of Emotions

with Brittany Bird

This is an unedited transcript.

Brittany B

Yeah. I do the exact same thing.

technology’s not my friend all the time. Okay, so I’m going to give you a quick intro, but obviously we’ll chat a little bit more I do want you to explain what you do. What I see after the is like, just we’ll just touch on that because I know it’s still a very kind of woowoo idea for people like what it’s not like it’s just such a an incredible science to write.

So hold on.

Um, yeah, so let’s chat that for a few minutes. I think I’m having another. No, she’s not osteopath. I have another expert coming on later. Who I think energy work is another part of what she does, too. So that’s what

I’m like, which side is is on?

I know. I went like this the other day. It was like, Oh, yeah, right. I was like, What just happened? Like, my face is frozen. I don’t know. Where do I touch? You like awesome. But yeah, I wanna I definitely want to talk energy, talk emotions, the whole thing. The whole theme is, I think I told you, this is about trauma and the effect on the body. But it can just be emotions and the effect on the body. Like it could be anger, or resentment or whatever frustrations, any of those things that we deal with with energy, then, yeah, walk us through it. And if you have any practical like, Hey, we’re gonna do this, like, do this with me right now. You don’t have to. But if you have any little things like that, you can give us examples and perfect. Sounds good. Very simple. Let’s get going. Oh, and then halfway through, there’s gonna be some weird pauses. So if I suddenly just stop talking, and there’s like an awkward pause. It’s for commercials and stuff like that. So you just let me come. The third story we do in about the 15 minute mark, it’s about 30 minutes, usually we record stuff, but the 15 minute mark, I’ll do like 1015 second vlogs somewhere in there. I think that’s about it. Okay, let’s start. Welcome to the Mondays podcast. I’m your host Holly Lowe and I am looking forward to an amazing theme that we’ve put together for the next little while actually and all about the physical effects of emotions and trauma repressed feelings over time how they affect our body so we’re gonna get a little deep right now into you know what we maybe we don’t get that deep up to this point. But now we are we’re diving in we’re time. It’s time to get into the nitty gritty of our health and our bodies, Mama’s and women especially because we don’t do this. We just don’t we get through our days we get through our life and we don’t look at what’s actually causing the things we’re dealing with. Today I am joined with my amazing friend and I’m so grateful that she could do this for me. She’s a busy lady. And Britney bird is a manual osteopath osteopaths or I should say it correctly osteopath and a holistic practitioner, with heaps of personal and professional experience it really is not just one thing with you, I love it that you are such an experienced person in your practice. I love this. Her approach does not look at just physical symptoms. And this is what the whole theme is about. It’s not just about how we’re feeling in our body. It’s the why so diving into the mental emotional spiritual side of what’s going on and that’s what Brittany is amazing at I have had the benefit of her help. My whole family has the benefit of her health and we’re so grateful for that. So that’s what we’re talking about today. Get ready we’re gonna dive in and go deep on the emotional effects, physical effects of trauma, the emotions, all the stuff that kind of builds up welcome Brittany That’s amazing. love having such a great intro. I love it I love reading BIOS when I get to skim through them especially when I know the person because that I’m like she is that amazing.

You’re making me blush on camera here.

I love it. So I want you to describe for us a little bit or you give me your give us a dumbed down version of what first of all is an osteopath because I remember the first time I had a friend who was going to school for this she was a mama who was going back to school to become one and I was like wow, this is intense of like your schooling is a big deal here. It’s it’s years of it. And what is the result? So tell me what you do as an osteopath?

Yes, so osteopathy, we kind of we look at the body as a whole. So that’s very brings in the spiritual aspect that will really tie it down to just the very basics like you asked for. So looking at the body as a whole. A great example for this would be if I’m working on your neck, I’m not just going to look at your neck. I’m going to look at your posture how you walk. Everything that’s interrelated because we look at the body as a whole. So when we look at the body as a whole, we’re not just looking at your symptom, which in this case is the neck if you came in for, we’re going to look at every area that connects into that, or an area that could connect that connects into that, right? So we might look at the cranial, we might look at your spine like the upper back, the lower back, you might even look at your hips, heck, it could come from your feet. So the whole premise is to really just look at the body and a whole different way and not treat the symptom, we really want to find the cause because sometimes things could actually originate elsewhere, but it’s just presenting in a different area of the body. So when we really look at osteopathy, a lot of people think of it as just bones. But there’s three components of osteopathy, you have your musculoskeletal, which is where people kind of think of a chiropractor where we just go we just take the joint past our to its full range of motion, we won’t go anything further. So it’s a much gentler manipulation. We also have visceral which would be all the organs we can actually release organs things like that because sometimes they can get tight from stress anything or even from actual physical accidents. And then we also have cranial sacral therapy which again, that is just all with the cranial so all to do with the brain and the sutures and how they open and can affect actually functions of the brain and the the neurological aspects of the body.

That’s amazing. And having experienced it myself working with you know yourself that I’ve had a few other in the past work with other osteopaths even with my kids, it is unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. And I mean you know me I’ve been I go to chiropractor, I go to massage, I go to, you know, acupuncture, I do it all for when I need it. But this is one thing that I feel is like, I don’t know, for me personally, it could be an ongoing like it just it can be like an acute thing, where something has come up where there’s been trauma or an accident, and you do need more intensive work. But I honestly feel like maintenance is so important in this field too, as a regular visit, like just, you know, once a month or I mean you see me lifting often because I just love I just love it, it feels good. And it does so much for your body. But you’re right there’s so many ways to to narrow in and zoom in on to what is the actual root of what’s going on. I know personally, I when I start to get headaches, I know it’s not that I have a headache, I know that it’s coming from between my shoulder blades, it’s usually stress or just didn’t get enough sleep and those muscles are tight. So finding that pathway and having someone map that out for you and say okay, I can see where this is joining in and this is where we’re going to work. That’s brilliant.

Love it. Yeah. And I love how you had that body awareness. So even what you said I know when I get a headache, it’s actually from other things and I think that’s a beauty thing about osteopathy or manual osteopathy is we’re teaching our patients how to tune into their body in a in a more logical realistic way before you kind of get into spirituality or emotions or you know, mental struggles it just is a way for them to really understand Okay, my body’s trying to tell me something and it’s a natural way and it’s not something where they kind of get afraid of it because it seems so mind boggling or such a different concept that they’re not willing to digest yet it’s like okay, this muscle connects to this Okay, that makes sense right? So it’s a beautiful way to kind of bring people’s body awareness in

absolutely that is I think for women I don’t know maybe this is a generalization but I think women we are very body aware I think we have that intuitive power of being able to tap into what our body’s saying, but we don’t generally take the time to do that. I think especially as moms if we’re busy or if you’re just a professional woman taking that time to slow down even on a daily basis it’s not we just don’t do it right and when we do get those symptoms that pop up I like to say symptoms I don’t like using the words it doesn’t because honestly the symptom is your body’s screaming at you and maybe it’s a scream maybe it’s a whisper or maybe it’s just Hey wake up yeah things going on like at whatever level that symptom is appearing. Um but it’s something I teach my kids now to I mean you know them it’s just it’s the the ability to say, Hey, are you actually feeling like this? Or is there an emotion tied to that right? What’s your what’s your mind feeling? What’s your gut feeling? And it’s such a powerful tool to teach. But as as mom isn’t as women we have to learn it too. It’s something we have to tap into.

Oh for sure. Especially like you said with the mom like I I’ve been to Holly’s house and watch the kids I mean she is GO GO GO she’ll even be cooking me dinner plus the family Have you ever give yourself a break here and she says

good at it. I never used to I never used to and that’s where I got into trouble. Well, yeah, and I speak from experience. Yeah, and

that’s what I mean. And I think that’s the beauty thing is like you said that awareness because we’re so busy being in our heads that then the pain teacher Paul check has labeled it the pain teacher so whenever you’re experiencing pain or symptom or something like that, it’s a pain teacher because it’s to bring awareness like you said, or something to bring to your attention. to kind of get you to tap in and be like, what’s really going on then what what have I been neglecting? or What am I not paying attention to? so to speak?

Yeah, absolutely. So now for those who, you know, let’s say you get them through that manual, osteopathy part of it, where you’re starting to make those body connections. What is it that’s, you know, what would your next step be when they’re like, okay, there’s still stuff going on. And you know, it’s emotional, or you know, there’s, there’s something holding on in there, what would you do next?

Alright, so this is my favorite thing. So I actually, I’ll give you a little story of how I kind of branch this together one for my personal but I actually had a patient at one point, and he had a crazy shoulder injury. And he’s been to physio for years and years and years, things like that took away his golf game, he had no idea. And I was feeling around. And I was like, This doesn’t make sense, from a physical standpoint, when I hold the shoulder, everything like that, this does not actually compute to his lack of range of motion, things like that. So he would always come in a little anxious were taught to like, learn about the body. So then I got him, the person has to be open, which a lot of people are at that point, right, and you just start to build that rapport. And what I found out is he was feeling a lot of guilt. And so guilt was being held in the shoulder, something, which is a personal relationship of his, and when we finally talked about it and got it moving, that’s when the shoulder finally released. And it didn’t take long, but it was bringing that awareness. So what happens is mental and emotional, will usually present in physical form, because we’re not usually taught how to deal with it, or, you know, we’re like, oh, I’m angry. Okay, that’s great, you’ve acknowledged it, but you haven’t actually dealt with it or felt into it, right. So there’s a couple ways that we can do sometimes it’s just almost like talking as I’m working on the muscle and getting them to focus on it, or the thing that I’ve used with you, right, is I take the emotion, and I make it objective. And by making it objective, I get you to give it a color, so it resonates with you. And then I’ll get you to tell me the size of the ball it is or whatever shape it might take. And what this does is allows the person to kind of take that feeling then objectify it. So now they’re observing it, because most of the time, we do not actually sit and feel with our emotions while we stuff it. Yeah, we’re very good at suppressing, right? Especially as women because we’re like, got more stuff to do, let’s go, right, we’ll sideline that and then keep going. And then what I do is I get you to focus on it as I work on the area. And that is just your job, you just continuously observe it. And what happens is it will start to shrink change color, do whatever it might do. And then you notice the body soften and go, because emotions are literally like children. They just, they just want to be heard and listened to.

acknowledged. You’re good, I love it. That’s a good illustration. Otherwise, my mom, mom, mom, 100%. Sure, go away.

Soon, we’ll get back to you. All right. And that’s exactly what our emotions do. So then it’s like, as soon as we don’t, you know, handle them or deal with them, right? We see this a lot with grief, or, you know, anger or resentment or, you know, we end up burning ourselves up. And then all of a sudden, we have adrenal fatigue or, you know, low back issues, you know, which is the consciousness of support and our foundation. So you kind of look at that, and it’s like, okay, now it’s getting, again, that pain teacher, it’s bringing awareness to the body, and it’s trying to get your attention. Because if you’re not going to be willing to listen emotionally or mentally then it’s like, okay, we’ll throw something at you in the physical in order to kind of be like,

wait, you pay attention yet. That’s so good. Okay, now I know you have a personal story, and I want to hear that, and we’re gonna, we’re gonna go there in just a second.

Background music. Yeah. All right, here we go. We are going to dive in. And I want to hear Brittney story a little bit more about what led you here in a sense, or what is it that you’ve, you’ve personally gone through I mean, we all have our stories, right? We all have the stuff that brings us in a circle, sometimes back to where we were supposed to be. Or sometimes that leads us on another path where we’re going to go So tell us a little bit more about what you personally dream through.

Yeah, so at the age of 2021, I actually ended up almost losing my life to eating disorders. Now, it wasn’t all about food, which is the normal thing I was an elite athlete. Before that I ended up losing my scholarship due to injury, things like that, which was fine. I kind of like stay at a pretty good track. But what happened is there was so many other stressors in my life that I couldn’t control that food and exercise were the way to do it. So I had bulimia anorexia and OCD with working out. And so it was kind of a moreso a piss off for me because I knew what I was doing, knowing all this health stuff. And I hadn’t got into energy medicine yet. So this is prior to that. But I knew just from being so passionate about fitness and my, you know, my soccer career, things like that, that I was like, You know what? I’m mad. Like, I was so mad that I developed this I was like, first of all, I love food, the thought of throwing up, like disgusted me, like I remember in high school, I was like, who could do that, or like anorexia, I’m like, who could not eat. Like, I honestly at that point, it never crossed my mind. So I developed those. And again, it was all these stressors that were happening in my personal life, things like that. And so I finally found when I was able to get that under control and energy medicine practitioner, because I tried everything in traditional medicine. And unfortunately, like I lost my menstrual cycle for over three years, they told me I had potentially cancer, you know, down below, and then they thought, you know, I wouldn’t be IBM, fertile, and fertile for the rest of my life, you know, all these, all these things. And then with that was the hormonal issues. So not only from losing your period, but with the malnourishment, my liver shutting down all these things, depression, anxiety kind of kicked in. And I wasn’t one for pills, because every time the medical doctors pushed it, and again, not saying the medical doctors aren’t there to help people for me, and my personal journey just wasn’t helping. But they kept trying to push birth control. And I was like, something’s clicked in my head and it felt heavy. And I’m going to teach you guys how to do that light and heavy feeling. So you can always kind of tap into yourself to kind of create body awareness, and a little bit, but it just felt really heavy. And I kept asking the doctor, I’m like, well, these aren’t real hormones, and they would say No, and I said, Okay, so how is it going to help my body to produce real hormones and they couldn’t give me an answer. And that’s when I was like, okay, there’s

like, I was like, Alright, so I take the prescription

just to get them to kind of leave me alone. And then yeah, you know, and I was like, Okay,

if I if I want to

take it, I will. I got introduced to this lady. Funny enough, she was just like a block around, she was a friends, friends friend, and she was into energy medicine. And after I had gotten everything under control of my eating, it was all about the emotional stuff. And I was still noticing symptoms even though all my blood work was normal. So I would be having like crazy bloating, I would be having like insane periods I’d be having all these things. But all my blood work every test that you could do in the book showed normal and it was through her where I would just feel like absolute crap like I couldn’t, couldn’t handle anything else. It was like, just waking up for the day was hard enough as it was right and not from a depressive state. I was just physically so fatigued and exhausted, I couldn’t do anything my body always ate. And again, no bloodwork or showing anything and it was through her when she started to teach me about the emotional connection and the consciousness of each body part and the organs and undercurrents how as I started to kind of dive into my own emotional traumas that I realized I had, which actually led to the eating disorders, right? Because again, mental emotional leads to physical. I started just feeling lighter and lighter. And I remember the first time ever laying on that bed, I had energy kind of running through like it almost felt like I had an energy board and circuit just kind of going back and forth. Yeah, I remember I ran home to my mom, there’s like, mom, she’s gonna be the one that helps me. I had no idea what the heck she did Holly. Yeah, I was like, my head guys. Like she was doing weird stuff. And I was like, I know it idea what she’s doing. But I can feel it like something’s going on

with you. But I felt it.

Right, and I’m like, I don’t know what this is. Once I got to a certain point, she goes, but you do realize this is for you. And it was a beautiful way to work through that trauma. Because I tried to psychologists, that was a deal that my mom and I made she’d let me you know, heal my own way. But she said, My going psychologist said no problem. And again, psychologists are great. And psychotherapy is great things like that. But it wasn’t what I needed. Because it wasn’t getting to the root cause of the issues, right? It was almost like a fishing thing. And this just allowed me to really open up and see from such a young age to like almost that I blacked it out or like our memories are not there but viscerally feeling those emotional tendencies that had developed throughout the years, and how they get almost hit again later in life. So it’s think about it like the straw that broke the camel’s back. Yeah, it’s really never the straw. It’s the underlying load. So we went back to figure out what was the very first load that was put on that camel, for example. And then kind of allow the domino effect. So things kind of like released and opened up and allowed for a whole difference. And within two sessions, I got my period back of her without prescribing any medication, nothing like that. Because it was all the mental and emotional stuff that was hindering the physical.

totally makes sense. It totally makes sense. And it’s funny because we’re not taught that way. Like it’s just not, it’s not the normal conversation. It’s not the normal process. When we aren’t feeling well or our body isn’t working the way it’s supposed to be. It’s like you’ve mentioned there’s all these other things that Try first, which is not wrong. I mean, do all the things. Yeah, I think we could get to this point a lot faster. Totally. We’re just more aware. And that’s why I want to have this conversation because the more aware we can be of this this process, the faster we can get to that healing. And it’s it’s such a beautiful thing when you feel it happen. Oh my gosh, like I remember the first time when we did the whole visualization with me. And remember I was saying it was it felt like there’s something stuck under my ribs like, yeah, deep breath is like one of my organs is lodged in there. And that’s the only way I could describe it. But the only physical real physical symptom I had was that sensation, just that tightness, and it just was uncomfortable. But that released I was, oh my gosh, like it was that feeling of how have I been even existing with that feeling now that I know what it’s like not to have that.

It was crazy. And just like you were saying, with the body awareness, we don’t even realize how crappy we’re feeling until it’s kind of fixed. Yeah, it’s like eating a food that you know, that you didn’t realize didn’t agree with you until you cut it out for like, a couple of weeks. And then you’re like, oh, oh, that’s why I felt like that. Damn.

Yeah, it’s true until we feel well, we don’t even know how well we could feel. Like, you get used to just getting by you get used to living with it. One of the one of the terms that makes me probably the most frustrated, I was angry, because I doesn’t go that far. But it makes me frustrated. is people who are saying, you know, we’re going to, I’m going to do this so that I can cope with it. And yes, there’s a stage maybe to that as you’re getting well, but who wants to learn to live with it? Left to if there can be things that you know you can do to release that and to get healed up and hold and

I would even ask them is when they say that sentence, get them to say it again and ask them how do you feel when you say I’m just going to cope with it? What do you actually feel?

When there’s no release? There’s no, there’s no lightness? There’s no, it is still a skill. Yeah,

it’s still there. Yeah, yeah. Which actually brings me to my next point. So that that would love to share with everyone on here pretty much that light and heavy feeling. Because our body is an innate wisdom, right? Like we’ve dealt with incredible things. You know, when you get a cut, you don’t have to be like, Hey, buddy, can you send some limp there can clog the blood? Can you can you make sure there’s no infection going, like, we don’t have to do that, because our body’s brilliant. And our cells are always interacting with us and telling us what we like and what we don’t like, right? It’s kind of like when you meet a person, you kind of get a vibe, if you’re like, we’re gonna get along really well. Or, you know, I’m kind of okay, if I don’t see them again. Yeah, so I want everyone it’s a very simple thing. And literally, I do this, whenever I’m making decision if I want to go out that night, like if I have the energy for it, if I’m looking at food, if I’m doing anything that I want to do in the day, I practice with something, and it’s called the light and heavy technique. Alright, called the light and heavy technique anyways, so if everyone just kind of closes their eyes, Holly’s gonna do this with me first. And I want you to say to yourself, I’m an infinite being, you can say it out loud. Or you can say it in your head. And when you say that, I want you to tell me what you feel inside. Because infinite means unlimited potential. unlimited possibilities, right?

Mm hmm. Definitely like,

yeah. Now I want you to say to yourself, I’m a finite being. Now finite, has boundaries and limitations. I see that heaviness and it just kind of closes in that chest, right? So literally, I will ask myself, I always like to give a reference because when we’re learning, we need to, we need to know how it feels right? So you can always ask that and then ask your question. So you understand the light and heavy so if I’m feeling a little off that day, I’ll be like, Hey, what’s like an infinite being? Okay, what’s, you know, that heavy feeling? I’m a finite being, I’ll feel into that. And I’ll be like, okay, is it in my best interest to go out tonight? You know, and then you’ll have a lighter, heavy feeling. And that’s your body’s way of letting you know, okay, this is something I actually do want to do, or am I just doing it because I said I would, or because I feel like it’s expected of me or anything like that. And when we ask ourselves those questions, that’s when we really start to empower ourselves as well. And awareness starts to come in. Right? When you think about

the fact that our were directed by massive amount of our subconscious, right, you’re not we’re not even tapped into most of our operating time. That’s directing our behaviors and our decisions. If you take that moment to tap into that, that’s what you’re doing. You’re really allowing it to speak and to go Hey, okay, I’m going to give a little push here towards what really is actually going on back there. I couldn’t imagine operating in the subconscious because it would probably be like a whirlwind of chaos. If we didn’t have that filter. You know, like I’m grateful. I’m grateful. We have the conscious filter by It’s so powerful when we have even like you said, just to take a moment and recognize those feelings we push past them all the time. Like women in the workplace or even times in as an athlete, I mean, you’d understand that too just moments where you’re like, well, I’m gonna push, I’m gonna push and I’m gonna push past what we do, right, we’re just going to push ourselves to the limit, there might be times for that push, there might be moments for that, but not acknowledging our bodies, not acknowledging our emotions, is dangerous, it’s a dangerous game, and get you to a place where that repressed all of those repressed moments turn into something you didn’t expect, like you said, Nobody goes looking for an eating disorder. Looking for depression and anxiety nobody goes looking for bloating and IBS and stomach you know, conditions which is huge right now and pain and and the other thing

for the stomach, because I find a lot of clients with this is asking the question, is this heaviness actually yours? Because as women, and as we have children, we are that caregiver, that is our natural archetype for women is that nurturing archetype, right? So or the caregiver, or however you want to look at it? So how much are you trying to take on to take their pain away? unconsciously? Right. And so you can even use light and heavy being like, is this really mine? And if you start to feel lighter, you know that it’s not? Yeah, right. And it’s just about allowing it to like, release and know that you don’t have to hang on to that. You can just take the information and try to be there for people, but you don’t have to hold on to it.

Yes, you and I are both empaths. We know how that works.

A little too well. So

one of the things I’ve learned over the years, actually, I learned it in college is it’s funny when I was doing child psychology, and I never forgotten it, because it served me even more personally than it ever did in my work with kids. But the question was always in conflict resolution. And this is where it was interesting because it This doesn’t really fit in a sense. It does. It’s meant for conflict resolution, but it fits so many other areas. The question of who owns the problem? Oh, that’s a good, right. So if you think about I take my kid into Walmart, and I, you know, they’re hungry, and it’s probably close to nap time. And I have a whole bunch of things to do. What are the chances there’s going to be a meltdown? or someone’s going to want snacks? I’m going to say no to, and we’re gonna have a problem, right? Yeah, problem. My kid doesn’t own the problem. My kids like, dude, just feed me I’m hungry. I’m tired. I own the problem. Because I obviously made a choice. That probably wasn’t the best choice, right? Yeah, that’s my problem. You’re in a conflict with somebody else. And it’s their issues being put on you, which happens all the time in conflict, right? Especially in relationships and whatnot. And they’re projecting those things onto you. Being able to put that question to your own heart and go can take a step back. Who owns this problem for real? I have a problem with what you have a problem. Right? And funny how even just that you don’t have to even say it to that because obviously that’s not gonna help. Yeah. But the problem not me, but be able to define that I don’t know for me personally made a big difference because I could let some of that heaviness go like you were talking about. You go, Oh, I’m carrying some baggage. That’s not mine. That

Yeah, it’s objectifying it right? Because we’re very subjective when it comes to emotions, obviously, right? Because it is our feelings. This is what we’re, we’re currently going through and it’s not about disowning that or telling people Hey, what you’re feeling is not true. Because 100% your feelings or your feelings. I can never tell you, Holly, you tell me you’re sad. I can’t be like, No, you’re not.

You’re lying. To our kids all the time. Yes. Right. But really own it. Let them own those feelings.

Exactly, right. And it’s just like, okay, there’s nothing wrong with that. But at the same time, if you can reflect and be like, okay, whose problem is this? They own that problem. They’re allowed to feel that way. It allows you to kind of get your guard down, like you said, and be able to open up and be like, this has nothing to do with me.

That’s right. That’s right. Yeah. It cuts down on some of that wounded ness. I know for me as well, when somebody is angry at me or, or just angry, and it’s coming at me or even my kids or anything, they’re in business when you know, somebody lets you down or whatever. You can look at those things more objectively, when you have that. Even the wording the phrasing, and like you’re saying if you practice that feeling of tapping into what you’re actually feeling well, yeah, happening, but yeah, time to do it. And if you’re not going to take the time to do it, go take the time and see Brittany or someone else. riously like that was part of my healing infertility in the past year and a half, was the ability to just say, Hey, this is part of my and I in my head, I had to treat it like a health routine because that I took as a priority. I didn’t even have to, it’s for my emotional well being because I wouldn’t have taken that as seriously. But when I say This was part of my health care team, Brittany’s part of my health care team and how I’m going to deal with this. And that involves energy work that involves emotional care. That just made it a priority for me. So whatever you have to do to make that work, right, yeah, and

that’s the thing, right? You just end on understand your priorities, your values, right? What are your non negotiables, right and then put it in that way? Because I’m the same way unless if it’s like with like health To me, this is why Holly and I get along so well, we have very similar values and stuff. And so I’m the same way if I look at it as like this is going to obtain my health and stuff that no problem, you know, you’re probably going to have a bigger budget for it or something like that, right? And just actually be more committed. But if it’s something like you’re not even interested in, or you label it as, Oh, I have to do this, instead of I get to do this, or I’m choosing to do this, there’s going to be more of that heaviness or obligation to it which will lead to less likelihood of follow through.

That’s right. Yeah. And not the same effectiveness as well. Exactly. Are you kidding my kids my kids begged me on a weekly basis who gets to go see Britney today? This week? That’s what do you call her and say come for dinner. I get all the hugs. So it’s perfect. I love it. I love it we pay in hugs. Alright, we’re gonna have to cut this conversation out here. I know we’re going to talk more though because I love hearing your just your philosophies on all of this. And but I highly encourage anyone listening if this is not something you’ve ever thought of doing. If you’ve dealt with, you know, I call them symptoms here. But really there’s no other good word for it. And if you’re dealing with symptoms, physical outputs, things that you just haven’t found relief from or solutions to other ways, I would highly recommend them out. I know Britney would highly recommend that you look into this, that you consider taking this stuff and adding this into your treatment routine. Because I promise you you will get results if you’re open to it and you’re you’re just showing up to heal and to take care of yourself. It works

and five books as if you’re listening to the podcast, you’re open to it. So

you’re in the right place already. I know it. Thank you so much, Randy. I look forward to talking to you more and of course seeing you for my next appointment, which I will be making today. Probably. I’ll make it today.

Yeah. Well thank you so much for having me and always a pleasure, my dear. Thank you