Mom Comes First

with Bethany Gettis

This is an unedited transcript.

. Welcome to the Mondays podcast. I’m your host, Holly Lowe. And as always, I am so grateful that you are joining us today to listen into our continuing conversation on trauma in general. But all the ways that it affects our bodies and our decisions and our parenting. There’s just so much involved in that. So we’re diving in deep into a heavy topic for the next few weeks. But I think it’s a super important conversation. Today, I am really lucky to have Bethany Gettys with us. And I was blessed to be on her podcast and to have a great combo with her the other day. And I think she’s somebody I could probably talk to you for a long time. So I have no you know, no worries at all that we’re gonna have a good conversation today. I’ll give you a quick little snippet of the story that we’re going to hear about Bethany is a full time mom of two young boys. She’s also a widow who has experienced the loss of a partner, and a previous diet and health nurse. She is now running a thriving online business and it’s called nutritious and delicious and I’m loving all the information I’m getting to learn and things that are just great refreshers for me but a lot that is new as well. So welcome so much and I’m grateful that you’re here for this you know, it really important topic because I know you’re going to bring some personal information story to this, but also a little bit of professional advice, too. So welcome, Bethany.

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me, Holly.

So I we’re gonna jump right into it. I want to hear your story. I want to hear you know a little bit about your personal life what’s going on? We’re going to get up close and personal today. Because I know it’s not you know, everybody’s stories unique. And yet I know that there we have so many mamas who can relate to this. Personally, in my life, my my mum has been has gone through some pretty extreme trauma, losing her partner her husband’s twice, she’s lost two different husbands suddenly and in kind of tragic ways. So my dad being one of them. So I I’ve watched it from that perspective, the story of you know, how it affects your body and your health. And I’ve lived a little bit of that, but I want to know from you what what is it that you’ve been through? And how’s that guided? You?

Sure, thank you. Um, so I’ll kind of start at the beginning, I guess because it kind of started a little bit more in profession. So I started as a nurse, like you said, in the diet and health industry. And I did that for about five years before I actually ended up having my kids. I left when I was pretty heavy pregnant. So I was ready to have my first baby. And that journey kind of took me into some postpartum depression, unfortunately, with my first baby. So that was kind of my first touch point, I’d say with sort of mental health issues myself personally. It was kind of hard, I guess, in the beginning to sort of recognize that I was, you know, in a traumatic state because I was just in survival mode, as a lot of mums technically, are when they first have a baby. So my circumstances at that point was my first baby was very colicky. I had no idea and I didn’t really realize until about six months in I felt you know, kind of isolated like social anxiety and I wasn’t even facing like what we have today in the world, you know, that was back in 2013. So kind of professionally I went into nutrition so I had already you know, done the whole dieting aspect and being a nurse in the medical route and I felt that I wasn’t really helping people very much like people were coming back in heavier they needed more help. And the huge component that was missing was the mindset, the mental state, the emotions, the tapes, all tied to it. And I opened nutritious and delicious basically when my boys were really little so kind of doing that on the side and then I was being a stay at home mom. So I ended up having my boys about 22 months apart so I have two sons now. And I found that I actually got a lot better once I had like community around me. Being a stay at home mom and going through all the depression, anxiety, things like that kind of on a personal level. And then when I had my second son, it was a very different story, I was really anxious going into being a mom of two, because they were 22 months apart. So basically two in diapers. And it was almost like having, I would say, like, what felt like twins, when people call them Irish twins or whatever, when they’re really close together. It was hectic. And I was again in survival mode. But I think I had a lot more confidence and knowing. And throughout the whole process, what I noticed that I hold held on to was I really looked after myself, physically, mentally, even nutritionally, I still got back in shape, like right away, like I worked out, I think, with both my boys up until I was like seven months pregnant until my body was kind of like telling me no. And I was like, Okay, I get it, I can’t do any more. So I think that really helped me not going too far down the rabbit hole of the whole anxiety, depression, and also having a community out there that were helping me as well get through it. So after I had my two boys, so that was, you know, really tough, obviously, raising two little kids, it’s very hands on full on. And realizing sort of as I was doing my business as I was being a mom and raising my two boys, unfortunately, my husband at the time was struggling with a lot of mental health issues himself. And we ended up actually losing him. Like October 2018. So it’s been three years now. So my boys at the time were three and five when they lost their dad. So it was quite a challenge. It was hard, I could say that for sure. Like being being that I was already a stay at home mom and I was running a lot of the home stuff anyways, it was more trying to sort of keep everything together. And it was, you know, it was like I was sort of trying to tread water with two kids on my back as well. So there was a lot of tough moments in there. Overnight, basically, I came became the breadwinner. So that was another huge, you know, tough thing too, I wasn’t just a stay at home mom anymore. It was, you know, put the foot down on the gas, like really hard, because everybody depended on me and needed that, right. So it was it to say like the rug was really pulled out from underneath me it was. And I think because I had already experienced the whole postpartum depression, anxiety, and I knew kind of the rabbit hole that I could fall into, I knew I had to really make sure that I wasn’t just in survival mode anymore, and that I was actually going to thrive. And I’m like, I have so much more left of my life. And my boys have just started their life, like I knew I had a long journey ahead of me. So kind of in a nutshell, that is sort of, you know, up to now, my boys are six and eight years old. And I have been in a really happy relationship for the last two years as well. So, you know, to say, going from, you know, stay at home mom to losing my partner to now where like, I have a business, my boys are happy and healthy physically, emotionally, myself included. And you know, that that much included that I’ve actually attracted relationship into my life as well. So it’s been a long journey, let’s say,

definitely, it’s been a long journey. And that you it’s actually to me very miraculous that you’ve made all of that, like you said, you attracted it. And I think that’s really key because there’s a mindset component that’s huge to that. Oh, yeah. You If I could say anyone had a right to be in a victim state, you know, or have that victim mentality. You earned that, right. I mean, I think most of us would feel like 100% you’re justified

to sit? Yeah. And I didn’t I didn’t want it though, right?

Because, especially with little ones who are looking up to you and, you know, relying on you, we can put ourselves aside, like, you know, most mothers do, and just focus all of that energy into what they need and helping them. But I find that when we do that, then that neglect on us, it just compiles right? Yeah, it’s pushed down and it gets repressed. And that’s where we see a lot of this repressed trauma, you know, situations coming up in health and in your body and in all the, you know, the the ability to make clear decisions and all of those things happen. So I it’s beautiful that you you were able to recognize that kind of the gift in having been through postpartum depression, if you could call it that.

Yeah. I didn’t even realize that sort of had a connection. But when I do look back, it makes a lot of sense. If you’re, you know what you’re saying like if you’re not doing anything actively to look after yourself, emotionally, physically, whatever it is to keep yourself going and thriving. The problem is, you are going to crash and burn and that’s Exactly what I teach, you know, through my business to other moms is, if you’re not taking care of yourself first, then everybody else in your family is going to suffer. And I’ve seen that firsthand.

You know, it’s so true. It’s also the whole illustration, we say this all the time is putting that oxygen mask on. First, there’s a reason when you’re on a plane, they give those instructions. Yeah, if you’re not okay, if Mama’s not okay, no one’s gonna be okay. So, I love I love that you do what you do for that purpose. Because one of the reasons we’re pulling in all these different aspects to trauma is because it’s not just a one faceted thing, we, we have to look at the emotions, we have to look at the physical health, we have to look at the gut health, we have to, and that’s that whole healing journey, it’s not going to happen overnight. And you know, you did a great job of getting your family pulled together and healed up and all the things that you’ve wondered, you know, wandered through in some ways, you know, without meaning to, because you’re pushed into it. Otherwise, you’ve intentionally done. So that’s, that’s a beautiful thing to hear. Now, I want to know, from you from on a professional side, and we could have lots of conversations in the future about kids and nutrition and all this stuff. And we’re definitely going to talk more, because that’s gonna be Yeah, you want to do. But let’s talk more about for the moments or for women or for any of us who it could be, it could be birth trauma, it could be postpartum depression, it could be there could be a whole gamut of what it is that PTSD. And after my first baby, I had PTSD and didn’t even recognize it, like you said, because you’re in the thick of it. Yes. Yours to recognize how abnormal, like, yeah, my feelings and behavior, you know, weren’t healthy like that it wasn’t a normal way to feel that way. But when we’re when we’re in the thick of them, trying to get the best way to explain that when we’re in that thick feeling, when we’re in that days of maybe a shock of trauma, maybe it is just something that’s brought up a repression of something, how is that directly? Or is it directly affecting our diet, and I use the word diet, not by you know, diet, we’re having more on what we’re putting in our mouth, and the decisions we’re making, about our eating and how that’s going to, you know, come full circle for us.

It’s in a lot of, it’s in a lot of ways different. So everybody’s kind of going to go through this differently. Some people lose their appetite, some people gain an appetite when there’s when they’re stressed. So, for example, when I first you know, went through all of this, I was in shock for probably a few months, so I probably dropped weight really fast. Again, you know, feeling like I was sick every time I ate. And that’s, that’s high stress, right? People can go the opposite way as well. And comfort II and I find that’s more of a chronic thing more than like a an incident happening. So when you haven’t really dealt with your trauma, your stress, childhood, birth, trauma, PTSD, things like that, it typically goes more into like a chronic state where it’s like you’re trying to sort of numb yourself. So you know, people do that with alcohol, they do that with substances, but people also do it with food, because it’s not a banned substance or anything like that, and then you can easily access it. Yeah, yeah. So I tend to find that most people will gravitate towards like high sugar, high carb foods. Reason being is because of the nerve pathways it works on. It’s a instant hit of a rush, basically. So it makes people feel really good in the moment, because it’s either a, I feel really full and sedated feeling or I feel really high in a sense of sugar, or the carbohydrate load, which is probably high in sugar as well. Like you think most people don’t crave vegetables or anything like that. So obviously, it’s definitely related to carbohydrate load and sugar load. Now, the other aspect, when I think of nutrition and stress is that our gut health so if our body isn’t actually absorbing nutrients properly, and we’re stressed out, it’s like, I think I saw this a really long time ago, it was like a picture of a zebra and basically it showed the zebra like in fight and flight have is like a cartoon zebra of a lion chasing it, it’s his body’s telling it like you’re in a state of real high stress do not eat so therefore your digestion, digestion, sorry, your digestive system gets slowed down basically. And that’s where you’re actually not going to be digesting your food properly, you probably going to more have something like a leaky gut because it’s not actually going to absorb the nutrients properly, versus being relaxed and comfortable and in a good state to eat. That’s why I always suggest people like it’s also your environment when you go to eat as well. Like if you’re having an argument with somebody the the worst thing to do is sit there and eat because your stomach is gonna feel like it’s in knots because you’re in a fight. In flight state you’re arguing or you’re, you’re crying or you know, your baby stressing you out like a lot of mums, I probably did this myself, but eat when you know the baby’s sitting on them or crying, like your body’s in a tense state and you’re trying to eat this food and it’s not actually absorbing properly because your body’s telling, you need to either fight, fight, flee, basically, or freeze. And it doesn’t actually take the nutrition in properly. So that’s why when you eat, there’s a way of actually like slowing down, enjoying every mouthful, like being in a relaxed, calm state when you’re eating because it makes such a difference in how much you’re actually absorbing and nutrient wise level.

Yeah. It’s interesting because it’s, it’s something that I’ve had to teach myself in the last little while and I’ve got three busy kids and busy household busy business, all of those things. And I found myself I’m like, what you said in the first place? I’m the person who when I’m stressed, or I’m in a trauma state, I won’t eat I just Yeah, Euro appetite. When we went through our miscarriage in August, it took me a good probably month, like it wasn’t probably until September that I even had an appetite. I would make myself eat because I knew I needed sit. Yeah, yeah, eating to live, you know that that point. And it’s funny because I do that with even with my successful births. With each of my babies, I felt like that for weeks after they were born. I know hormones play a role in that as well. Yeah, just that feeling of like, I have no interest. But I’ve had to teach myself even the last few weeks to remind myself to don’t just put something in my mouth because we’re in a rush. And I have to head out the door, and I’m going to be hungry, to really almost schedule in my food. Does that sound you know, crazy? I don’t know, no, I find when you’re in a busy state, if you have a newborn, or if you have a busy household, you have mealtimes maybe. But if it’s that kind of thing, where you’re running off to a practice, or you have kids in this or whatnot, I don’t want to be constantly running through a drive thru to grab some works, right, that’ll just work for the moment. And we fell into that for many years. And my gut health, like you’re talking about, I went through dealing with leaky gut, my mental health suffered because of that all of those things happened. And so I’ve spent the last few years healing that all up again, you know, so definitely, it’s, it’s definitely something I’ve had to recognize is, has a root for trauma with me and things that have happened in my life, and I will pull back from food. So that one was good, I’m glad you brought that up. Because we’ll often talk about that, we’ll talk about what we’re eating. And we’ll talk about comfort eating, which, like you said, can be a long term, chronic effect of repressed anything, just be something a pattern that you’ve fallen into. But there is the flip side, the flip side of not eating or not eating right, or not taking the time to plan your meals and do things like that. What are some, you know, I don’t know, maybe just some practical tips for that salute for that type of scenario where you’re not eating in a relaxed state, or you’re finding it hard to get time to have a decent meal.

So to me, that sounds like it’s a time issue. Now, the first thing I would say to people that aren’t eating and actually putting that in place is if you’re planning, if you’re not planning to succeed, you’re planning to fail, basically. So again, this is a Big Mom issue I find is if we don’t put food out for ourselves, you know, we’re always making sure our kids are fed, we’re not going to say like, oh, you’re gonna, you know, starve today or fast or you know, like, they’re always going to be fed. So if you’ve got kids, you’re feeding somebody three times a day, at least, you know, most people are. So where’s your meals fitting into all of this? Like, you’re not actually putting out anything for yourself? And I do hear that often is a lot of them say, Well, I don’t have time I’m running in here and there. Well, if you don’t have time, you’re actually needing more than ever to be putting these foods together for yourself as well. So you know, when you prep the kids breakfast when you know, make their school lunches, like do another one act as if you are the other kid. You know,

if I like that, I’m gonna do that. We have to make lunches and yet you do you have to do it and you lay it out and you plan it,

right? Yeah, like you don’t have a choice. You got to feed them. So, you know, why not feed yourself to write and again, dinner a lot of parents say to me, you know, well, I don’t like the same things my kids do. Like I just, you know, I pop something in the oven for them. Whether it’s a lasagna or chicken nuggets or something like that. I always suggest to parents, like I don’t make the I don’t always make different meals but I’ll take different items from those meals and put them on my plate. So you know, I always for myself, I have to avoid dairy. So if I’m making them something I just put maybe cheese or whatever it is the sauce that they’re using on their plate and put like, you know something, I’ll take something out first for myself, and then played everybody else’s afterwards. The other one too is to have leftovers. So if you’re making dinners and you do enjoy leftovers, some people don’t like it, but I’m very big On leftovers, because then you already have a meal for yourself. Because I know as moms, we go to the cupboard and we’re hungry. And we’re like eating basically crackers or a stick of this or, you know, something out of a wrapper. And it’s, there’s no meal, there’s no like, food put together as like a complete meal. So I find the best meals I’ve actually had, whether I’m sitting at my desk, and I’m eating because I’m, I’ve got a busy day ahead of me, or I’m, you know, going out somewhere. And I always make sure I have at least something I can reheat whether that’s soup, you know, dinner the night before, or I’ll make myself a sandwich. Like I said, you know, like the kids, I’ll make it ahead of time. So that way I’m excited and actually have something to look forward to versus like, I’m just living off a coffee and then like looking for scraps.

Or your kids leftovers, right. Yeah,

that’s a big one to covers. But it’s the stuff on my kids plate. Yeah, that’s a big one. Especially when they’re like little little like I find because kids are they can be pretty picky around toddler age preschool. And you know, moms are like, Okay, I’ll see. I’ll eat on my diaper bag. So they’re eating like basically children’s snacks that have like no calorie nutrition and this like the the foamy stars or whatever they have that’s going on or Cheerios. Like, you can’t live off that like that’s them using practice food. That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. Your Guts going on?

Hello. I need something real. Yes. Yeah. And I like that. That’s 100%. What and I’m taking some of that from your your groups and the things that you’re teaching. I love that because they’re good reminders. And one of the tricks I started using is my, my to go mugs, my thermal mugs.

These are the best they keep. The other issue is I find in them. That’s awesome.

The reason being and I’m just like, are you did you get a call, like I don’t drink coffee, really. But you know, can I have some of your tea and I’m like, you can have some nice soup. Yeah,

exactly. The reason why I like these for moms just like a thermal mug or something. It’s just because I always found that I would make myself a tea or coffee. I put it somewhere. I forget about it. I wouldn’t drink any be cold. And it’s like a pet peeve of mine. So to always have a hot drink in your hand. That’s why like that is like the biggest helpful tip like I’ve done for myself.

Yeah, less running to the microwave to reheat something. Exactly. Well, and the main thing too is hydration. Right on top of that. Yes. Yes finding I don’t love drinking water. It’s been a struggle my whole life but I love herbal teas. So if I can always have a warm herbal tea somewhere I will down as much water through the day as I’m supposed to in that state you know for

suggestion on that one then if you don’t like water because I know I struggle with getting water in myself as well as herbal teas is good if it’s a cold weather, but we put a lot of different fruits in our water jug at home lemons, limes, we put a lot of like the frozen berries in there. Because obviously drains through so it looks like we’re drinking like right now. It’s that’s water, but it’s quite pink right now because we’ve had berries in it. So because it’s got a different taste. Yes, it’s like drink it almost feels like you’ve got a bit of a fruit juice in there. So that’s also another way of people getting them to drink a little bit more water as well. I

use on a lemon oil all the time. So oil in my water. It’s one way I can get it in and I feel like I’ve had a drink. Not necessarily Yeah, any water. So yeah, I know it’s one of those lifelong things for me. I’m like water my kids never remind me of you had water this morning. Well,

you almost need like a notification or something or like have a little sticker chart depending on how you like your reward system is because some people like the sticker charts for like working out or I’ve drank my water today. It’s like a way of like, I got to complete something basically.

Yeah, check it off the list is no alarm. My son was like, I’m gonna put alarms on your phone versus gonna go off every little bit. Yeah,

and it’s like, people do that too, where it’s like, when I used to work in the diet industry because the girls would bring their waters to the front we would do basically like on the hour like okay, chug, like we’re gonna have a quick chug sesh or whatever. So it’s like that. Yeah, that almost that reminder notification, like just chug back as much as you can and then an hour later do the same thing.

Yeah, I love it. I love it. Okay, we’re gonna take a quick break. I want to talk a little bit more about this in just a second

All right, we’re back. I want to talk about supplements a little bit and it’s I don’t normally go into this because I’m a bit of a supplement. I’m very picky when it comes to supplementing and I don’t mean you know, necessarily specific um, you can share that specific brands or whatnot but I I’m so I’m always so appalled at how dirty the vitamin industry is to be completely honest. Yeah. And also how many people still do not either understand supplementation or you You know, use that option. And when we’re looking at, you know, maybe we’re going through therapy for traumas, we’ve started to realize I know, when you become a mom, those babies and those kids are your little triggers for healing that needs to happen. And you could look at it in another way, you can just say that their triggers. But the truth is, they’re our best teachers, they’re sent to us to heal up into big on hold people. So I remember the first time doing walking into a therapy session after my kids were born and going, Oh, wow, like, there was so much to unpack. And I had, like, in my head, I had it pretty great life, like there was nothing that really felt big until I had my babies, you know, he started to search. So for me, as I was going through that, I realized that the stress some of that of working through some of these things that can bring up stress that you’re not accustomed to dealing with, it can maybe open some old wounds, you know, good therapy doesn’t walk you through all that necessarily will heal that up. But there’s still that aspect to it. Maybe it’s something that we’ve just been through, maybe it is just postpartum, you know, justice, that was a big J. But maybe it is postpartum healing and recovery. Supplementation really became a big part of my life after I realized I had PTSD. And I started realizing that the stress was affecting my gut. What are some, like, you know, basic, everyone should be on these kind of deal. Is there something like that I have a few in my head that I always feel like, we’re always a little bit lacking regarding eating a perfect diet, what are some that you would, you would mention to clients or

a lot of the clients that I deal with have very low energy. So I have top three right now I can think of so I have B vitamins. And I’ll talk about those vitamin D, and omega threes. And these are like basic supplements. So a lot of the times what I noticed is a lot of women come to me taking vitamins that are like from the store shelf, and they’re like the women’s one a day or something. And when you look at them, they’re filled with fillers, they have like no nutritional value to them, they’re like really small. And you’re basically wasting your money. Let’s just say that. So I don’t ever specifically recommend a brand to anybody. But what I do recommend is a if you are going to take a multivitamin, or any kind of supplements, some of you can get away with others a little bit better. But I do usually recommend more bioavailable. What I mean by that is that these are the ones that you’re going to find in the organic aisle, they are typically in like glass containers, so they’re dark, so they’re not hit with like any light to alter or change them. And they’re usually made from food. So they’re very much coming from a very potent source of natural foods. Now, you know when you go into a little bit more specifics of other ones, so example a lot of moms I find are lacking iron, so myself included, I am on a very high iron supplement that is bioavailable, and it’s made from dried food, because otherwise my body’s not going to absorb it properly. If I’m taking something that is a pharmaceutical, typically other things that some people could be taking due to everything going on in the world right now. People are lacking vitamin C, they need more zinc. Vitamin D is another one for that as well. If you are prone to getting viruses or, you know, getting sick this like time of year, but basically I’ll go into the three that I would say kind of on a regular basis, like if you’re a general healthy person. So B vitamins, these are good because they are water soluble, your body’s going to pee them out. So if you’ve used them throughout the day, you’re like B vitamins you want to get a B complex basically B complex is basically all your B vitamins in one. Now if you start buying them separately, like you’re buying B six or B 12 Separately, the problem is they counterbalance each other so if you take too much of one like B six you’re taking too much or B 12 is going to start dropping interesting and you don’t want that right so that’s why I always

writing a lot about B 12. That’s the one that’s always like yeah, recommended over and over again, don’t worry about the rest focus on D 12.

The probably like I said the problem with that like the problem with that is some people if they are actually lacking a B 12. They should be going to go get like an injection for B 12 A shot. But typically most people will like can get enough through a B complex. That’s all of them put together they’re in the right ratios and you need them every day. I would recommend B B vitamins in the morning because they are going to give you energy throughout the day. The other note is people usually freak out on this one but they pee a little bit yellow when they first start taking them. That’s normal. It’s not up carrying them out or anything like that is just the riboflavin, which is just a coloring basically of one of the B vitamins. So not to worry on that one. And then B vitamins are going to help you with your hair is going to help you with your nails, it’s going to help you with your stress energy. Every cell in your body needs energy. So if you’re lacking energy, you’re probably quite low and B vitamins. Now that’s a pretty basic vitamin to take. I usually take you know, one a day, that’s all you basically need. And then the other one I would highly suggest for a lot of people is vitamin D, especially with everything going on right now. If you are in the northern hemisphere, you’re in Canada, you’re, you know, above basically anything above the equator line, you probably need vitamin D, because you’re not sitting in the sun all day long. Vitamin D, typically for adults, they do suggest I think, on a regular basis 2000 IU, I actually personally take 4000 Yeah, in the winter, in the summer, I drop it a little bit because I am in the sun, and I actually am getting a tan. So you’re not actually absorbing a lot of vitamin, vitamin D unless you are actually kind of getting your skin exposed without sunscreen. So vitamin D is quite crucial.

So something that I had learned too is the idea of an E three. Lissa D 3k. Two. So there’s that combination for people who might be a little low on their their K option. I don’t know where I have to look it up again. I don’t know if you’ve heard this. But the idea that the k two helps with the d3.

Yeah, I would I would have to personally look into that for a visual thing. I

remember reading a thing on that and then see it on the health resource. Yeah, well, d3, K two is an interesting combination. But not everybody needs that buy,

I would look at that because k is known for blood clotting. So if you are on any kind of medication that you know you’re already experiencing, and those issues, I would be very wary of that. So that would be something that you need to kind of find out first if you are lacking before you start adding things in. The other aspect is vitamin D is really good for kids. You need to give them in drop form. Usually I give my boys probably about 1200 drops. Basically, in a day. A lot of the kids ones are quite low. I’ve noticed. So you know,

the using I’ve just been using a regular d3 for all of us. And I if they can swallow it drops. Yeah, it’s actually dropped. So it’s drops. Okay, yeah, I know there’s one I use Thorn. That’s just a really simple one, because it’s a clean one. But yeah, there’s lots of them available. So yeah, I did actually ask that question. Just recently to one of my friends who’s a naturopath, they say, is it okay for them to use? My kids are seven plus 10 and 13. So yeah, is it? Yeah, once they’re out of infant stage vitamin things. She’s like, go right to your regular one. You just kind of do one drop for the little guys. And you’re going to increase with their age kind of deal. Yeah, yeah, that was that I didn’t have to buy two different ones.

Yeah, that’s great. I usually just do that for my boys with a little bit of honey in the morning. And that way they, they take it in, they’re good. And even now they’re reminding me they’re like, Hey, give me my vitamin D, I’m like, okay,

water, because there’s this flavor list. So let’s put a drop of lemon oil, and then they put their drops of D in and they do the shot glasses. That’s awesome.

shots together. Nice. And then the other one I would recommend is a mega three. So I usually with a mega three would really like to see people actually eat it. Versus like taking it by pill just because a lot of us are taking a lot more omega six in than omega three. So that’s like our animal fats and things like that. But Omega three is actually plant based. So you want it to come from things like avocado oil, flaxseed oil, you’ll get it in hemp seeds, as well as well. And you’re gonna get it things through like coconut oil as well. So these are the healthy fats and a lot of people shy away from fat in general, because they’re like, oh, it’s not good for you. But the problem is, it’s all in society. It’s all being conglomerated together as like fat isn’t good for you, but it’s not. It’s not like saying our brain needs fat. Our body needs fat. Our brain is made of fat basically. That’s what it needs more than anything. Yeah. And is especially children developing, you know, brains, everything and a big one for that too is mental health. Yeah, so typically when I deal with somebody that does have a lot of anxiety or depression, they’re usually massively lacking either vitamin D or like healthy fats. And they’ve got the wrong kind of fat in there. They’ve got like the the animal fat or they’ve got the trans fat they’ll trans fats come from manufacturer like manmade fats right, which are not good for diesel at all. But Omega three if you can get it through your Food um, like so salmon. Like I said, you know, avocado oil. Sardines.

You know, MCT oil have?

Yeah, you can get through a lot of people have been using that as well in their coffee.

Yeah. Because sometimes either do like a half a scoop of like just solid coconut oil or I do a squirt of MCT oil. Yeah,

a lot of people using that. And that’s great as well. And then if you’re not getting it enough through, I’d say your food and you don’t have sort of, I guess the budget or something for salmon or any kind of like, fresh fish, I guess. I would recommend like an Omega three oil to take as a supplement. They’re a little bit harder to take in a sense, because a lot of people like when they do take fish oil and stuff like they they complain about the smell. Yeah. And also like if you burp and stuff like that, you get kind of like a fishy, fishy taste. I’m gonna show you this real quick. Yeah, sure thing.

We have a really good one. This has become our favorite and the adults. We use this in pregnancy too, for my camera. So yeah, okay, I’ve

seen this one.

Now in the doTERRA is IQ Omega oh my gosh, it actually doesn’t taste like my kids all love it. Like they I was shocked. And I was giving them another one. Another Canadian based one when they were younger, and I’d put it in at squirter because they hated it. And I would just be like, open up. Yeah. And now I have to keep this up in my office. I have to keep it. I’m supposed to keep it in the fridge. But it’s cool down here. Because I will just take it like out of the fridge. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. So I caught him a one time overdosing on his Yeah,

you gotta be careful those two because I noticed a lot even with kids with like all the Flintstone gummies or anything like that, because they come out looking like candy. You gotta be careful, like supplements. Supplements can also interact with medications. And children also sometimes think they’re candy. So just be aware and put them somewhere safe. Obviously,

my mom has a good story about that woman I was little. She took me to the doctor because she couldn’t figure out why I had orange rings under my eyes. And the doctor, after looking at me and asked me all these questions said, How much vitamin C is she taking? My mom’s like, one day, she had these big vitamin C. Oh, it tasted. I loved them. They taste like Orange Crush. And she had no idea that I was climbing up into her quarter covered in taking like five or six of them a day. Wow. And it was like, it wasn’t even the vitamin C. It was the coloring added to it. She’s like, I can’t leave it that much fake color in your vitamins. And I’m like, Yeah,

even the doctor knew that’s what it was like,

you’ll be surprised what’s in this stuff. Like just trying to find a plain vitamin D for children or vitamin C. I went looking for that and everything from, you know, having aspartame in there and food coloring. And I’m like, Yeah, I’m not looking for all this garbage to put in there as well, like, so you really have to read the ingredient label to on that as well. Yeah. And

if you don’t understand it, ask you know, you’re going especially I recommend go to a health food store is a starting point, if you can, and just ask questions. Even if you’re not going to buy it. They’re just ask them questions. They’re very Oh, yeah. Yeah, I

have a lot of insight and stuff on that. So that’s awesome.

I love it. Yeah, it’s one of the ones that the only other one that I would say I’ve had to add in more regularly now is magnesium because we are dairy free? Yes. And so that’s a Negley routine for us with our probiotics. So we all take the guy, the kids, magnesium and zinc. That’s a really good one. And it’s a liquid. So it’s nice and easy. Yeah, that helps our shots and our nighttime shots.

That’s awesome. Yeah, magnesium is really good for calming anxiety, too, for people definitely take that one at bedtime, though, because it makes you sleepy. Yes,

yeah, we learned that one vitamin. But that’s also another good one for I know for moms postpartum too, are with postpartum depression, that combo that you were talking about. All of those are actually very helpful as we’re navigating the hormone changes and sleep and all of those things. So definitely, yeah, good recommendations. I love it. Awesome. Anything else you want to tell us? I’m going to wrap it up in a minute? And I want to know, is there anything more that you’d want to add as far as maybe just eating habits or choices that we’re making that are easy to make? Or little changes we can make as we’re working through some of these things in our body?

Yeah, definitely just putting yourself first I think a lot of moms struggle with that mom guilt of you know, either I don’t have time. I’m too busy. Like if I can do it, and I’ve had you know, two kids being a stay at home parent and going full board into a business. And also making sure that I’m like looking after my nutrition and my exercise and everything for my own mental health. Like you guys can do it too. So you’re just telling yourself a story and you got to start changing those tapes around.

That’s amazing. It is it’s the priority, right? It’s yeah, idea maybe up to scheduling in maybe you have to make an appointment with yourself.

Your priority you have to

Yeah, I love it. Well, thank you so much. This was a great chat. We will talk more I want to talk more about kids and eating and all that good stuff as we kind of transition some of your themes coming up, but I appreciate your time.

Thank you so much, Holly, for having me. Appreciate it. Awesome. Do you do you have my links and stuff for? I think I gave you the free 15 minute call and hopefully my website and stuff.

Yes, yeah. Because we put all of that underneath and make sure it’s all they do a whole write up and everything so I don’t actually go into it in that