Soul Memory
with Janessa Finely

This is an unedited transcript.

¬†Welcome to the Mondays podcast. I’m your host, Holly Lowe. And we are back into our theme of dealing with trauma and everything that that involves. And I have to say, I am learning so much as we walk through this. And maybe it’s a little bit selfish, but a whole bunch of this has been me. I’m hoping it’s benefited. Everyone who’s listening? I know, actually, I shouldn’t say that. I know it has I’ve been getting messages from so many women saying this is these are all such needed conversations. So we’re in the right place. And today, I have the privilege of talking to Janessa, Finley, I was just sharing with her that I was enjoying so much just going through her website and looking at what you do and what you offer. And again, it just mixes so gorgeous with what we’re doing with this healing process in our bodies of things that maybe we haven’t even noticed or known could be the root. So welcome to the podcast. I’m really grateful that you took time to be with us today. I’m thrilled to be here. And thank you so much for having me, Holly. And thank you more than anything else for doing this trauma series. super passionate about it, I get excited about it in a good way to be able to bring healing and relief to people because trauma, the stats on trauma traumas everywhere. And what we do know is that hurt people hurt people, and they don’t intend to, but it’s a cycle that continues. So giving moms the information, tools and knowledge to break the cycle is going to be a ripple effect that will benefit everybody. So I could not be more thrilled to be a part of this. Thank you so much. Yeah, absolutely. I love that you said that. Because that was a good part of other conversations we’ve had, is that whole generational effect going both ways, right? I mean, we might be dealing with generational trauma ourselves or need to really look at some of that. But we also have that impact on you know, the little people that we’re growing as moms, and how we can I think really recreate their futures, recreate our past through them in a sense, for the better. So I love that we’re having these conversations. It’s super important, right? I really want to focus on the physical stuff. Is that okay, we chat a little bit more about the physical aspects and, and what trauma looks like in our bodies. Is that work? Yeah, yes. I prepared to talk about repressed memory. Yes. Well, that’s a little different direction, but a kind of other. No, no, that’s totally fine. I want to I want to go there. I want to go to that idea of repression. But I think a lot of what we do is, especially as moms as we ignore the symptoms, Oh, great. Yeah, it’s more that idea that I think and we’re going to repress them because that is a big part that we haven’t touched on. And that’s a really big part of that. But leading into that I think the idea that we have symptoms that we ignore or symptoms that we self medicate or symptoms that in our physical body that really should be or could be that wake up call to repress trauma. I think that sort of that that route knocking and saying, hey, you know, this lower back pain could be related to this or you know, this breathing issue could relate to this might be time to take a look at something beyond the physical symptoms. Does that make sense? It doesn’t make sense as a huge part of trauma work, summarizing it into a nice, neat list of what symptoms look like for people it’s really hard especially if we are looking at the physical being in the physical body. Trauma, emotions manifest into all types of discomfort or what I like to say This is.

So it’s so broad. It’s very, very broad. You are right on track though with, I have this pain in my body, I’ve gone to maybe a chiropractor or a doctor physical therapy, I have exhausted all of the things and I’m not healing. Why is that? That’s a great time to start looking into what’s the mind body connection to that. Because there is likely a mind body connection to it, whether it’s simply emotional component or something deeper, such as trauma, I tend to think of trauma in a stack of a lot of emotions compressed into one experience that gets stored somewhere within the physical body, right. And so it is important to look at those symptoms that we’re having the physical pain, whatever that might look like. Additionally, for traumas, specifically repressed traumas, but traumas in general, there are unexplained reactions to maybe a specific person, and over and over. Just not really sure why, but it’s there. Yeah, lack of ease and specific places, I worked with one client whose trauma occurred in a car, they have never driven a car, because there’s such a great sense of dis ease. With the car associated to that experience. We can become neutral to the experiences that we have in life, even the traumas, while they’re very painful. While they can be overwhelming. We don’t have to allow that to rob us of the conveniences in life, such as deriving the ability to drive. Other symptoms can look like extreme emotional shifts, being on a roller coaster, not really sure why or where that’s coming from. Anxiety is a pretty common symptom as well, from trauma. And the child has reactions we see especially with repressed traumas and memories, but all trauma across the board. The situations that happen at the age they happen, it can stumped us into continuing to try to process that situation through that capacity of age, for lack of a better way of saying it, but just being stuck there in that space. Constant exhaustion that’s a little bit more of a physical symptom that people will see oftentimes with those trauma responses, just being unable to cope, in what would otherwise be a stressful situation that we should be able to cope and move through. And having a you know, perhaps a devastated response or a response that just does not match the situation at hand, we can easily consciously see that, that we can’t figure out why that is occurring. So those are some of the symptoms we work with and map out and I encourage people to watch for, you know, if that speaks to you, let’s get curious about the mind body connection with those and what’s going on inside.

Yeah, that’s amazing. That’s a good bunch to kind of wake up to and, and to take a look at. And it’s funny, even as you’re talking, I can easily look at people in my family or in my life who I know are struggling with these issues, because I’m outside of the situation can see it. But when it’s myself, I almost need someone outside of me to say, this could be what’s going on, right? And you were talking about, you know, when you’ve gone down all these other avenues and it’s not being solved with maybe a physical symptom or, you know, maybe anxiety or things like that you’ve tried all the things, that repression of what you’ve boxed in and put all of those emotions and jam them into that one little space that our bodies aren’t meant to hold on to, is definitely going to be some output in some form. So I’ll tell you one of my little stories is not mine, actually my husband, so he moved from Hong Kong when he was quite little, and didn’t speak English. It was a obviously a huge move. I think he was around seven, but he doesn’t remember it. He doesn’t remember much right before that. He doesn’t remember much about that process. And yeah, I know how as a mom now with littles and you know, as someone who took child psychology for years in school and things like that, I can only imagine what that was like to, you know, suddenly change countries and to be put into an English speaking school in the middle of a school year with no one you know, and so there’s so many things that I see come up as triggers that are easy Due to trace back, and yet I know if I say that to him, he’d be like, whatever. It just happened. It’s whatever, like in his sister’s family. Not that it was whatever, I’m sure it was hard. But a lot of people don’t look at some of those just life events as traumatizing. Because we we think trauma has to be this big, dramatic incident. That can be. But it can be something as simple as you had a baby and things did not go as planned. It could be something as simple as a major move, you know, or changing schools. So I think it’s, it’s good that you said that, because sometimes it’s easier to see when you’re out of the situation, you can kind of pinpoint those things. But when we’re in it, kind of get lost in some of that, right? It is challenging, so hold space for ourselves in that healing capacity is so much easier to have awareness of other people and tracking other people’s patterns. I look at behavior and patterns. And most people can tell me how their significant other will respond when they’re upset, or what might rob their best friend of a night’s sleep, what what worries them what concerns them, yet, they may not have the awareness or knowingness of those things for themselves. And they may know the situation per se, a work situation may be robbing them asleep. But what’s deeper underneath that that’s creating such a level of fear or uncertainty within the actual circumstances. And that deeper component is what really, truly allows us to have the freedom. But it’s also the really challenging element to get in touch with without some support or tools. Absolutely, and that’s where people like yourself come in. It really is I mean, whether it’s a therapist, or whether it’s trauma, you know, counseling or whatever that looks like, being able to or a program or whatever, there’s just so much available, which is fantastic now, but it really does need to be this niche. I think I think it really does need to be someone who understands these components because it is very specific in some ways. That what you’re looking for, right? Absolutely. When it comes to repressed memories, memories, or traumas specifically, people may be surprised to hear me say this. There is the ability to heal without knowing without memory and you can heal and not have to access all of the specific details and knowingness.

It really traumatizes people, right. And my own personal story I had my own experience with repressed memories, which really came out of the blue for me because I was none the wiser, I was obliviously walking around a hurt person, hurting people, unaware of anything that was going on. And it’s done back to something that happened in my youth, a fairly young age prior to the age of 10. And I would say as I went through my life path, I would classify myself as a rather unadjusted teen. I had a lot of strife and relationships, this overprotective sense of myself afraid of getting hurt, wanting something deeper connection with individuals yet, feeling like I needed to keep them at an arm’s length away. And not being able to really find that happy medium, I developed an eating disorder. In my late teens, I had an active anorexia bulimia issue for many years. I married young one year later, due and large to the eating disorder and dishonesty. I was divorced. So we can see how this played out. But I had no idea until I was in my 30s that I had something happen at such a young age that was interweaving all of these really challenging aspects into my life while I was just trying to cope, and I had no idea what I was trying to cope with. And so I access my memories unexpectedly, and reverted back to essentially an eight year old child trying to process that event with all of these very childlike responses and emotions. And it was so confusing and an adult body to let me tell you, so I didn’t have the proper support that I really truly needed as that transpired in my life, but I did have some support, which was better than none at all. And I first sure had to work through and process through the retraumatization that happened with having all of that come back to me and when it came back The events of that day I was then looking for validation, talking to my family. You know, I remembered all the details throughout the day, but still questioning. But did that really happen? And when everything else was accurate, I decided, okay, well, these memories must be accurate as well. But what happens with repressed memories is our being is trying to protect us. And so it says, Let’s not access this likely painful event, we’re just going to block it out. But it doesn’t block out the symptoms. So as we talked about, with all the symptoms, we still experience it, and aren’t sure where it’s coming from. And then we walk through life experiencing all of our trauma coping that we can grasp and reach and manage to try to use, which also doesn’t heal the issue. Right? No, blocking the memory to our conscious mind doesn’t heal the issue, as we’ve stated, but also accessing the memory does not heal it either. Just as I lived. And as I experienced, having the knowingness of what happened, didn’t actually bring me any healing other than the awareness of then being able to start the healing journey. That’s where the healing began. But it in itself did not bring me healing. So while our body has good intention of blocking out what our unconscious mind has stored and knows, it’s in there experienced doesn’t heal this, nor does accessing it. Right. So we use a different process with muscle testing. Have you ever heard of muscle testing? With my are actually one of my My oldest is dyslexic. And he spent a couple of years doing kind of like neuro reprogramming with an amazing therapist to work with him for an educational type. But she was also super gifted at muscle testing, it was such a gift to have someone who has some extras, you know, so she taught me a bit about that. And I got to watch her. Do that with him for just for simple things like supplementing and helping him out that way. So really cool. It was it kind of blew my mind the first few times I watched you do it, and then saw the results of following through with it. So yeah, so tell us more about that. Because I know it’s very unheard. Like there’s a lot of moms and people who don’t know much about that. So what does that look like? It’s an incredible tool. And as their birthright, all of us have the ability to tap into this any intelligence that we have within us.

I’m fond of starting the explanation of muscle testing, although it has nothing to do with it really. But the innate intelligence that is within us when we are in utero, and we are this little embryo, no one’s telling us, oh, hey, you need to multiply yourself and grow bigger. We just do it. We know how to do it. And that same intelligence that created us, also heals us, we can tap into that intelligence using this mind body connection. So we ask a binary question yes or no, of our being. And our brain or nervous system will shoot an electrical message down to our muscles. And there’s many ways to muscle test, you know, for demonstration for those who watch this on YouTube, you can press on your forearm and ask for yes, and the message is strong. You can ask her No, and it goes weak. There’s many ways to muscle test though. Essentially, you get that yes or no response from not your conscious mind. Because your conscious mind only knows about approximately 10% of what’s really going on within our unconscious, our soul, our body, with the muscle testing, and bypassing that conscious thinking, to get into our innate intelligence. We then individualize what specifically does this person actually need to know and do to heal, and they may not need to know much of anything about it, they may just need to use some techniques to release that energy from their being, or what they may release may open up to the fact that the symptoms that they were having, while they thought it was from something traumatic, actually, it’s not from anything traumatic at all. So then it allows us to move into what is really truly at the root of the symptoms that they have. So not only do I work with the repressed memories, I also work with what I refer to as suspicion, suspicion, trauma, where we suspect something happened but we don’t really know and our subconscious is able to reveal what it is that we do need to know so that we can move forward and rid ourselves of those symptoms and really, truly be the beings we were created to be That’s amazing. I It’s funny, I never thought of muscle testing for that purpose. And yet it makes complete sense, I think because we’ve only use it more as a supplemental form of, you know, what am I needing at this point in my body, cellular or whatever. But on an emotional level to That’s brilliant. Yeah. And muscle testing for supplements is really powerful. One of the first ways I was introduced to that as well, some other great things, once you learn muscle testing that people I’m all about the tools for people to use on their own food sensitivities, you know, what is causing this bloating or indigestion or whatever is going on, instead of doing these super broad extensive elimination diets, you can use it to weed out some of the foods that don’t agree with you. Or even the forms for me specifically, cooked Kale was great raw kale destroyed me, I didn’t have to eliminate, you know, a plethora of common foods I ate to figure that out with my muscle testing interest just showed me. Give me an example of that, because I want to do this. So give me an example of how I would do that, let’s say with foods, how would I use muscle testing with foods to make that determination? Or is there something that you experience after you eat? That’s uncomfortable? Yeah, so I can’t eat green. At the moment. It’s it’s for the last year or so it’s been really hard on my body. So looking at specifically what you experience when you say it’s hard on your body, you know, do you have aching, do you have itching, sometimes loading, loading, unloading digestive issues? Yeah, pain, something. And yet, there’s no diagnoseable issue. Like we’ve kind of gone down that road, but like you said, kind of like eliminating an entire thing. Drives me crazy. Because then I’ll you know, when we’re in England, and I eat European flour, refined, not refined, sorry, there are less refined so I can eat bread there. And it doesn’t bother me at all. But I eat it here and it does the same do the exact same thing. So it just feels like this puzzle. I don’t feel like trying to figure out on my own going through, like you said limitations and all those things. So I just carte blanche to say forget it. That’s not fun, either. Nope, it’s not completely understandable. I like to guide people to use as much specificity with their muscle testing as possible. That’s why I was inquiring as to what exactly do you experience?

After identifying that the bloating when you ask the question? Is it you can start with food groups? Is it bread? Is it rice? Is it sorghum? Is it barley? I mean, there’s so many greens out there, right? Yeah, it’s easiest to start looking at. If you keep a food journal, or if you just know, oftentimes our diets aren’t that diverse that it’s, it’s tricky to figure out. So is it this bread ate as it wraps? Is it the rice in a bowl or whatever you’re eating? And just start going through? But yes or no, because we want a yes or no response? Do you have to test them one at a time? Gotcha. So that’s where I sometimes like to start with bigger groups of food is that a flour is that wheat flour is the white flour, and flour, right? And then you can narrow it down. So there’s some different approaches you can get really specific and just go through the foods you ate for the day, if you keep a food journal that way is really simple, too. But keep in mind, you want to seek out what is causing the symptom not just the general does this, you know, fit well with my body or not. Right? Oh, that’s awesome. Okay, perfect. I can totally do that. Yeah, that’ll change a lot of things for me it because again, it’s one of those things that we I think we will look for the quick answer to when it comes to our bodies or emotions or whatnot. Were just a culture of quick fixes. So putting, like you said, a food journal. I remember recommending that to a client of mine. And it was just Nope, can’t do it. My life’s too busy. I can’t do it. Okay, I get it. But what can you do? Right, what is one step you can take kind of thing and I think it’s the same in this scenario when you’re you’re dealing with symptoms or repressed trauma that you know, or you start to become aware of. It’s those maybe those baby steps. Maybe it’s just taking the step to talk to someone and say I think this is what I’m dealing with. What do you think? What would you say is are some good first steps for people who are starting to put the connect the dots maybe through some of these podcasts over the last little bit? What would be a good first step or? Yeah, where would we go from here? If I’m starting to go okay, I could see this benefiting me or I could see how this works for me. It’s a great question. I feel as though much like the food journal beginning to track your symptoms. So what is it that showing up in your life that’s uncomfortable? What are you what are you working with? What are you doing? Dealing with begin to track what your symptoms are and what’s tipping you off. What are the clues.

I also have a very pure heart for self healing and giving people tools that they can use on their own. And while by and large repressed memories, I don’t encourage anyone to go down that road alone. I absolutely, absolutely encourage them to seek a professional and to seek that guidance. However, when you’re dealing with the symptoms when you’re dealing with the emotions, tapping is a huge tool that brings so much relief to stagnant energy that clogs up the nervous system with the overwhelming emotions that we experience. Because life happens daily life happens, we experienced a lot from day to day. And having the tools to process just daily life can make the traumas that we’re still needing to work through and process or release a little more balanced and tolerable. Because we don’t have the daily compounding emotions and stress, the inner stress. When I say stress, I’m not talking about the world around us stress, I’m talking about the inner stress that our bodies carry with us from what we experience day to day. So tapping, another tool I commonly use with clients is simply holding the front of your forehead and the back of your head. And this seems so simple, we think it probably won’t do a whole lot. But the there points to the amygdala, on our forehead. And our amygdala is our Fight or Flight Center, which is huge with traumas, when we have those trauma triggers our brain activity, it was proven in a study and scan showed that we’re not able to differentiate today. And the moment the trauma happened, which is why we have these big responses to trauma triggers. brain can’t differentiate between the difference, which engages our amygdala, the fight or flight on a, you know, day to day basis, or trauma trigger to trauma trigger basis. Simply holding the front and back of our head for three minutes will help just process and comb and bring a little more clarity to what really is going on in present situation versus all of the emotion and components that gets stacked and stored in us with trauma that then gets chopped trimmer triggered with the trauma triggers. Yeah, that’s a Love Triggers. That totally makes sense. So too, I mean, it’s funny I did. I like I told you, in the beginning, I just I eat this information that because it’s something that I’m, I’ve worked a lot with functional doctors and psychologists over the years in my own business. And I mean yourself as a functional medicine coach, you know, energy, psychologist, all the all that you bring to that. I wish there were more people doing this, I really do because the world needs so much of that. But I did a tapping Summit. Someone I can’t remember who it was one of the famous tapping teachers put on a free summit a few months ago. And I was like, Yes, I mean, because I want to understand this more, I want to know what the power of this is. And I actually got my kids involved. So we would do the practice work at bedtime. And so I’m kind of picking that one out. Because those are very practical, doable, things that we can learn to do. And it’s you don’t just go for this, you just you can learn this quickly. Tell me just I want to go just a tiny bit into the tapping aspect. We don’t have a ton of time. But this is big because I have an older 13 year old who has struggled with anxiety. I swear from the time he was conceived a lot of trauma in our life at the time, you know, marriage wise emotions, while I was pregnant with him, that I think you know, very directly affected his who he is today. But he’s done a lot of work. And he’s as me as a 13 year old it’s blows me away that he’s such a feeler and he’s he’s my Empath and the whole bit, but he’s so keen to heal himself. He really he understands that how you know, things in life have impacted him. So tapping was a big one for him. But he would ask me the questions like well, what what is why do we tap where we tap? What does that mean? Why do we say the things we say? So I think it’s really powerful for people to understand something so simple. So give me even just like a tidbit. What’s What is it with tapping? What is it that why does it work and what do you do with it? Acupressure I have to just while it’s top of mind I have to share with your audience. This is such an important point that I make with all moms that ties directly into the tapping

as moms there’s so much pressure at times unrealistic pressure that is placed upon themselves to give their children the life that they didn’t have and to essentially almost strive for protection. When we want to protect children from as much stuff as possible. Life happens day to day life happens. It’s more important to have the tools and to teach the kids the tools to be able to process life day to day. So they don’t have the overwhelming traumas built up in their in their system. And so I cannot stress the importance of using these tools, which when you said that you got your kids involved, that brought that up for me, in my mind, I’m sitting here saying, Holly, awesome, good work, because kids need these tools. And I have yet to even tap on a child two years or younger, who doesn’t completely sit still through the entire tapping? Because even their little nervous systems bask in it. They’re like, this feels amazing. Go ahead. And yeah, and kids at that age will release things so much quicker. Yeah. Using those tools with your kids at any age, you can’t start young enough. It does them so many, so many favors. Okay, but why does it work? Let’s get back to one wow, I want to know I because in this in this when we were learning this, it was more learning it for very specific uses, and what we’d say and how we’d work through it, but it wasn’t I didn’t get a lot about it by why but I wanted other sides of it. Or if there is this, that you could call it that there is science. It’s much like acupuncture without the needles. There’s acupressure on the meridian points, which is an Eastern world philosophy that energy flows through our body in these certain channels and circuits and pathways, which are called meridians. And those meridians are attached to specific organs in our body and those organs process and housed different emotions, for instance, the kidneys and fear the liver and anger, so on and so forth. For each place where you’re applying the acupressure or tapping, you’re releasing certain emotions from the meridians, those energy channels the nervous system in the body, we have combined a couple of different tapping techniques into one to encompass a greater amount of meridian points. And therefore to have a greater effect on what it is that it treats from traumas, phobias, limiting beliefs, simply curbing food cravings you might be having, processing those negative emotions that you’re experiencing on a day to day basis, resetting your internal clock, I just did a quick video with the time change each year. And parents talk to me about you know, while I’m doing okay, it’s not great. It’s not comfortable. And I’m not quite on track. But my kids, my kids, you know, are up super early or cranky, and it just throws everything off. I’ll make a note. So we’re gonna we’re gonna get you back on in the spring before time change, okay. I’m sure simply, yeah, can read that that inner clock. And it’s great when you travel, and you travel through time zones, there’s so much that the tapping does for us. It’s pretty mind blowing. And so there, I have a tapping tutorial. And I’d be thrilled to share it with your audience for sure. My plants, the more they tap, the more they report that they feel better. So it’s a great tool. We definitely can can repeat that, like it’s it. It was really neat to see and for myself to feel personally how I felt that change and that shift. And I remember, we started combining that with sound therapy. And I was like, but I feel like I just opened up to a whole new level. Everything never would have thought I would have done before. Like it’s I’m a very low science and logic minded person. And when you go into this other realm a little bit, I always felt like I was just playing with it. But when I actually experienced that, and it’s not it is very science based in the sense of how our cells respond, like you said, even from consumption and growth, the way our body innately knows and we are energetic beings is just how we work. So when you start to tap into this stuff, oh my goodness, it’s just brilliant how your body jumps at it. Yeah,

completely brilliant. It’s a beautiful word. There is science. There’s so much science to it. When we look at from a functional medicine standpoint of Our sodium potassium pump is ran based upon a electronic electrical charge in our body. The neurotransmitters that thoughts shoot through our, our body with an electrical charge, we are energy. And it’s just using these tools, which shift and adjust that energy to then shift and adjust our physical body, our thoughts, our emotions, everything going along with it. That’s amazing. I’m sorry, I didn’t beat myself because my kids start to wrestle. There’s something happening outside my office. I one of the things that I really, I kind of will wrap it up with this, but one of the thoughts that I really loved hearing is that there’s hope. And I don’t know, I mean, we didn’t say that out loud. But that as you thread through all the things that you’ve brought to us today, the idea that there is hope it could be like we said, those those mysterious symptoms, maybe it’s just something has come up and a memory has resurfaced or something has triggered something else. Maybe it’s talk therapy is not the route, you want to take whatever that looks like. The the idea that there’s still hope that there are so many tools at our disposal. Is that something that you see, you know, in your work, do you see that this brings people the ability to hope and to keep going and to find these answers? It does for sure bring people home. And even beyond that. It brings people a sense of empowerment, of doing things they never thought they could do. processing through situations they thought they were going to carry with them forever have haunt them for the rest of their life, being able to reflect on something that’s been so heavy and burdensome and burdensome to them. And be neutral with it. Hmm. And yeah, more than hope there’s truly empowerment, of really feeling like I can do, I can do the hard things, and I can do them gracefully. That’s beautiful. I love that. It’s so true. I when you when you take those steps, and you actually put in the work, and for some things like you mentioned, just the little tools that I’ve pulled on over time. They were so easy to do. They’re not you know, none of these were hard. It was just taking that moment to say, I need to heal, I need to be well. And you know, we were safe, Mama’s not healed up, there’s going to be problems. And if any of us aren’t taking the time to heal out, put that oxygen mask on yourself first. So you can take care of the little people or anybody else in your life, right? Yes, yes. Yes, scream yes from the rooftops. These are regular conversations I have to. So you are very, very onpoint. I love to share just quickly one story with moms for hope and inspiration and empowerment. I had an individual bring their child for a session. And when they arrived, there was some tension on the drive over and some triggers and itself, they took a wrong turn. And the child was very distraught when they arrived and fearful. And well, the session was scheduled for the child, we determined pretty quickly that mom needed some adjustment with energy first. And when we began, the child was running from wall to wall in the room and being pretty vocal wanting that attention which when kids want attention, there’s usually something more underlying that. As we adjusted mom’s energy, the child went from running wall to wall back and forth to sitting on a an exercise ball, you know that you can use to sit at your desk and bouncing on that. And the verbal, beckoning for attention stopped, they were just bouncing, talking, but not wanting the attention just talking out loud. We never redirected any behavior at any point in time. Within about five more minutes, they sat down, they slept through the remainder of the session, all by adjusting moms and energy were all connected. And the energy that we exude does elicit response from other people.

As a mom, it’s so easy to get caught up in if I don’t provide X, Y or Z to my child. They’re not going to have X, Y or Z. But really making that choice to invest in self first, I use the exact same example put your oxygen mask on first. Does more good to the child, then bypassing your own needs to give attention to what it is that the child is needing. Absolutely. And that love is a great illustration of that story. And that same atmosphere and energy happens in our homes. It’s we actually have the power to positively or negatively affect the collective energy, and our families. And so yes, yes to taking care of ourselves and to doing I mean, we can’t control other people’s energy, we can’t determine for them what they’re going to bring to the table per se. But we can we can show up with whatever heals us and the connections that we have. That is really powerful. I like that you share that. That was amazing. Thank you. You’re welcome. Yeah. So we are living in a culture of change, where we want to change all sorts of things. And typically, that’s the other people. Yeah, it’s finger right and to say, well, you have this problem if you would only change. And the reality is, we could just look at ourselves first, right? If we heal us, things around us start changing. And the true key is going within and focusing on what we can heal. And it’s not even a matter of changing ourselves. We’re healing ourselves, throw change out the window, like change the channel, change the setting on the treadmill. People don’t need to change when we want people to change, we’re saying that they’re inadequate as they are. So Let’s heal. And the ripple effect that comes with that is nothing but beautiful. Absolutely. I’ve experienced little bits of it. I 100%. Agree. So there’s less where to go? I’m sure. If we wanted to work with you in some form, what would that look like? Or how can we you know, find out more about what it is that you offer? When are you airing this episode? So I know I meant to ask that before. So that’s okay. And it’ll be before the end of the year. It’ll be in the next few weeks. Okay. Yeah. Because if it was January, I would have a different answer. Well, I gotcha. I gotcha. So you can we’ll just visit it again. And I will I can always, like put up a reminder in January repost and say, if you have any offers or things like that, that you want us to bring attention to. Okay, happy to do that. Yeah, yeah. But at the moment, I mean, all your links will be up and all that good stuff. So. So there’s two ways to access me. One is for individual work. And you can jump into my Facebook business page, contact me through that, or through my website, email, lots of ways to find me. The other way to access me is through the community that is built within Facebook. And I go live once a week and offer a little mini guided healing, tapping all sorts of different sessions to bring relief to people. And that would be another way to access my services with the group setting. So group or individual are both available, perfect. And at a distance. It doesn’t always have to be in person. No, we all are able to muscle test ourselves. So virtual is real and alive before COVID ever had. I love it. We didn’t. I mean, COVID didn’t invent that we did. Live forever. I love it. Perfect. Well, thank you so much. I know we could go so much further with this conversation. And I really do hope we can do more of this, we’ll probably pull out some really specific things in the future. And we can, like I said, time change. We’ll just get back to that in the spring. We should have done that ahead of time. If I had known I would have grabbed you earlier. But now we know we’re gonna work on some time change things next year. So I have a video on my Facebook page so people can jump in and access the time change thing all in their own. And yeah, I would love to come back and get into anything more specifically or even jumped over to the functional side of stuff. So many possibilities. So definitely fits right in with what we do every day. I love it. Perfect. Thank you so much for being on. I appreciate your time and we’ll chat some more soon. Thank you, Holly.